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MensajeTema: Warmachine // Hordes   Miér Sep 24, 2014 11:17 pm





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Les comparto la información sobre Warmachine, un juego de miniaturas tipo steamroller en el cual me metí a coleccionar las minis y a jugar de vez en cuando. También pueden ver un artículo que hizo el profe en una de las gacetas del club (no recuerdo el número). Warmachine también tiene un juego llamado Hordes que es completamente compatible en reglas y que es la contraparte en cuanto a miniaturas pues son tipo bestias.

De lo que he visto, leído y jugado, Warmachine es un juego que a primera vista puede parecer falto de estrategia pues en muchas ocasiones los ejércitos se tienden a encontrarse en el centro de la mesa. Sin embargo el orden de activación de cada una de las minis, los combos y el meta-juego de cada turno son vitales pues un solo punto en el resultado de los dados puede hacer la gran diferencia.

¿Porqué Warmachine?
Como todo juego, tiene sus detractores y defensores, aspectos positivos y negativos. Así, a continuación lo que considero son los aspectos más relevantes del juego:

(+) Sencillez. Sistema de lanzamientos de fácil manejo, basado en dados de 6 caras.
(+) Número. Cantidad de miniaturas por partida relativamente baja. Puede variar si el ejército se enfoca a contar en su mayoría con 'Jacks o con infantería.
(+) Rápido.Tiempo de juego que puede ir entre 45 minutos y 2 horas.
(+) Detalle. Miniaturas con excelentes características, con pocas rebabas, muy definidas en sus formas.
(+) Compatibilidad. Warmachine es copatible con Hordes, puedes batallar no solo contra otros "robots", también contra bestias que tienen un estilo de juego completamente diferente.
(+) Servicio. Tanto en producto (reposición de partes, etc.), como en aclaración de reglas (miembros de la empresa, Privateer Press, son activos en el foro), la compañía siempre esta dispuesta a hacer todo tipo de seguimiento.
(+) La página 5. Esto es algo que siempre se comenta, pero en realidad tienen que leerla pues es la base que debe considerar todo jugador (no solo de Warmachine). Se las comparto que la encontré en la web:



(-) Personalización. Las miniaturas no tienen bits o partes de sobra con las que se puedan hacer modificaciones, generalmente vienen las partes para armar la miniatura en cuestión. 
(-) Reglas. En ocasiones para quienes somos jugadores casuales, las reglas son complejas pues en una acción se pueden presentar varias situaciones que deben validarse muy bien con cada una de las reglas.
(-) Escenarios. Aunque el juego cuenta con escenarios que se actualizan y crean constantemente el juego generalmente se enfoca hacia la muerte del warcaster.

Seguramente me faltan más cosas pero por el camino las iré comentando. Si alguien esta interesado en probar el juego, resolver alguna duda, etc., me escriben y cuadramos.


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MensajeTema: Re: Warmachine // Hordes   Miér Sep 24, 2014 11:20 pm



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Protectorate of Menoth
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Loyal followers of the Creator of Man, Menites work together to overcome the toughest opponents, letting nothing stand in their way. While sometimes individually weaker, more than any other faction they leverage synergy to combine into an unstoppable force. Every Menite killed in battle just inspires his fellows to fight even harder until all the Iron Kingdoms submit to Menoth's Law.


Menoth Melee: Blessed with cheap, effective troops, the Protectorate has a mix of fast precision troops and slower hard-hitting Knights. These units are supported by a combination of commanding officers who ensure their faith does not waiver in the face of death.


Menoth Ranged: Preferring quantity over quality, there is a strong emphasis on AOE and spray attacks over the more accurate direct-fire weapons of other factions. Menites do not need to hit in order to kill, instead letting their wandering blasts land where they may, causing unquenchable fires in many cases. Aiming is even less necessary if your fanatical troops are willing to put themselves in harm's way to fire from point-blank distance.


Menoth Magic: Menoth spells focus on protection and enhancement of their army. They protect against magic, shield their troops, and inflict divine punishment on anyone who attacks them. Offensively their blessings inspire their troops to fight better while raining holy fire upon the enemy from afar. Some Menoth warcasters can even harvest the souls of their dying troops to inflict one last attack upon the enemy.


Menoth Warcasters: Menite warcasters excel in helping their army do more. Most of them have wide-ranging spells that help buff their army up to superhuman levels. While blasting the enemy with cleansing fire, they up the accuracy and damage output of their own troops and warjacks to high levels.


Menoth Warjacks: Despite early problems in acquiring the knowledge to manufacture warjacks, the Protectorate now has an arsenal of warmachines that rival any nation of Immoren. They serve roles from anti-infantry and anti-warjack, to durable arcnodes, to warcaster bodyguards. While slightly less armored than 'jacks of Khador, and somewhat less agile than Cygnaran designs, Protectorate warjacks strike a balance and are supported like no other army's can be - through the prayers and hymns of the faithful. With this support they often arrive at their chosen targets unscathed.


Cygnar
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Cygnar is a Kingdom under siege. Blessed from its inception with an abundance of resources and an inventive populace, the nation of Cygnar has long been the at the center of all matters in the Iron Kingdoms. This largess has come at price, and in the current tumultuous climate Cygnar finds it's self beset on all sides, straining to reconcile ancient alliances and traditions with the necessities of the day. On the field of battle the armies of the Cygnus are renowned for their versatility. A Cygnaran soldier is expected to shift seamlessly between roles, be it offense or defense, ranged or melee. This flexibility ensures that no soldier who fights under the banner of the Swan is ever truly unprepared.


Cygnar Melee: The warriors of Cygnar who fight face to face with their enemies do so with power and precision. Though not noted for their native durability or speed, melee soldiers have access to either ranged weapons or enhancing abilities to over come their limitations.


Cygnar Ranged: The reduction of enemy forces at range is central to Cygnaran warfare, so it follows that no other faction can match the volume of accurate ranged attacks available to the commanders of Cygnar. Though these attacks will rarely win the day individually, properly targeted they can winnow away the enemy forces to easily managed numbers.


Cygnar Warcasters: Cygnar's warcasters are strong and skilled commanders. They improve upon the strengths of their troops and bolster their weaknesses. Some of our warcasters are built to manipulate the opponent while others are designed around reinforcing their own army.


Cygnar Magic: The warcasters of Cygnar carry with them some of the most potent enhancement spells known to the Iron Kingdoms. Spells such as Blur and Arcane Shield protect the lives of friendly soldiers while others, like Dead Eye and Chain Lightning, ensure that no enemy is truly safe. Cygnar is also home to some of the most potent anti-warjack abilities known to man. Few commanders will find themselves without the tools to diminish their enemy's use of these weapons.


Cygnar Warjacks: The heavy warjacks of Cygnar are specialized for close combat. Even those that have ranged weapons find themselves at home in a melee. Cygnar's superior resources grant these behemoths high accuracy and mobility, even as their durability tends to be low. By contrast, the light warjacks in Cygnar are most comfortable during mid to long ranged engagements.


Khador
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From the harsh north of Western Immoren come the proud people of Khador. Cursed, or some would say blessed, with a harsh environment to live in, Khadorans are, on average, bigger and stronger than others in the Iron Kingdoms. They've had to scrape out a living amongst the cold, unforgiving lands, becoming tough and hard-bitten. A people with a longstanding tradition of empire, Khador has never stayed out of warfare long. Their recent conquest of the kingdom of Llael and expulsion of Cygnar from the Thornwood has only added to their hubris.


Khador Melee: Khador hits hard. Very hard. They were the originals to coin the term "Axe to face!" Though generally a little slower than other factions, when Khador manages to connect, it's always a knock-out blow. With the most unmodified high-power melee attacks, Khador is looking to get in and mix it up in melee, where they will almost surely come out on top.


Khador Ranged: Khador's ranged attacks tend to come in two forms, pinpoint attacks that are highly accurate or devastating blasts that can kill swaths of enemies with a single shot. Khador has a couple highly accurate shooting units that are adept at taking the enemy apart with scalpel-like precision. On the other hand, Khador's use of the Bombard, a large-barreled mortar-like weapon, throws out area-of-attack blasts, but you're never quite sure exactly where they will go.


Khador Magic: Based off of the world in which they live, most of Khador's magic is about ice. Able to freeze the enemy in their tracks and send debilitatingly cold blasts into the enemy, Khador's offensive magic can really give the enemy the cold shoulder.


Khador Warcasters: With only one exception, Khador warcasters are the only faction that doesn't have access to Arc Node technology. This causes their warcasters to fight from the front. That's ok, though, because no other faction can boast as many warcasters both resistant to assassination, yet also as capable of doing an assassination run of their own. Khador warcasters tend to sport high defensive values and many damage boxes to keep them going, even when placed directly in harm's way on purpose.


Khador Warjacks: They're big. Really big. Bigger than anyone else's. If you want the most massive machines to be in the game under your control, this is where you want to look. Khador's philosophy of "bigger is better" isn't shown anywhere more faithfully than in their warjacks. With the highest average armor value and more damage than anyone else, Khador's warjacks seem unstoppable. Your enemy's attacks will mostly just bounce off the armor, or only do a couple points of damage as they move relentlessly forward, waiting to connect with their axes.




Cryx
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The Nightmare Kingdom of Cryx has long been the "bogeymen" that other kingdom's mothers tell their children about to scare them to eat their broccoli and do their chores. The only problem is that the "bogeymen" are real. Very real. Undead horrors abound in Cryx. But these aren't your shambling, mindless undead. They run screaming at you at a dead sprint, bringing swift death... and the eventual rebirth as yet another in the ranks of the always-growing undead masses.


Cryx Melee: Cryx excells in melee due to their speed and generally stealthy nature. Able to conduct lightning strikes before the enemy has a chance to get a bead on them, they rush in and can pound you to death before you even realized they were coming. Generally, their melee attacks can be augmented in some way, either through combo-strikes or focus-feedback or magical manipulation. Just "punching you" rarely happens in Cryx.


Cryx Ranged: Modestly sparse in the faction, Cryx ranged attacks, like their melee, tend to have something else along for the ride. They may cause your trooper to explode, or force them to choose between attacking or moving next turn, or some other form of nastiness. Though this isn't where Cryx is going to be winning most of their games, their ranged effectiveness is a set-up to the melee waiting to come.


Cryx Magic: Cryx loves to see their enemies disolve into puddles of goo, and as such, have numerous spells that cause acid damage to their opponents. Their highly-accurate magic attacks help out wheir their lack of ranged attacks may turn into a problem. With the most arc nodes available, their warcaster's spells can come from almost any angle. Other than that, Cryx is master of debuff. Messing with your opponent's armor or defense values only makes their, what may seem like modest, attack ability look over-the-top.


Cryx Warcasters: Cryx, like most other factions, has a host of vastly different Warcasters who all work differently depending on the play style of the general fielding them. We have strong, direct assassins like Warwitch Deneghra and Skarre, Queen of the Broken Coast, and murderous meat grinders like Iron Lich Asphyxious and Lich Lord Terminus. While some Warcasters may have similarities, or share similar spells, no two play the same, and swapping out Skarre for Asphyxious within the exact same force will give it a totally different focus.


Cryx Warjacks: Cryxian Helljacks are some of the fastest Warjacks in the Iron Kingdoms, and although they have lighter armor than most of the rest, they pack a serious punch. We also employ more Arcnodes than any other faction, and Bonejacks such as the Deathripper, the Nightwretch and the Defiler are seen in numbers on the battlefield. They are blazing fast vessels capable of providing our Warcasters a safe and easy way to launch punishing spells into our opponents back ranks, and solidifying our position as the most magically dominant force in Western Immoren.

Retribution
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Ios, a nation of elves, has long isolated itself from the rest of the Iron Kingdoms; hiding from the world as their Gods disappeared and died due to some unknown reasons. The Retribution of Scyrah were an outlaw terrorist cell in IoS, who - believing human magic is the cause of their gods ills - have been working throughout the Iron Kingdoms to kill as many human mages as possible, hoping to save, or stave off the death of their last goddess Scyrah. With the rediscovery of Nyssor, in the hands of the Khadoran Greylords, along with Goreshades goals to kill the remaining gods, the Retribution of Scyrah has gained political traction, with several great houses openly joining their cause... allowing the Retribution to openly go to war against the human nations. 


The Retribution of Scyrah specialised in assassination and guerrilla warfare, and this is still the case; but the joining of several houses has brought many powerful soldiers and warjacks. As a Faction retribution boast the most highly developed weapons and warjacks, working alongside stealthy assassin models. They lack the numbers of other nations, but make up for it with elite specialised soldiers carrying the best weapons. They perhaps lack synergy, but are so capable on a unit level they hardly need it.


Retribution of Scyrah Melee and Ranged: Well armoured, or stealthy, the warriors of the Retribution are all highly trained, and specialise in destroying their targets. There are three distinct types of units units in the Retribution of Scyrah: the heavily armoured and powerful Dawnguard; the generic fast and adaptable Houseguard; and the stealthy and deadly Mage Hunters. Dawnguard are the elite soldiers of Ios, well trained and boasting the best armour and weapons; they overcome the enemy by strength of arms and resilience. Houseguard are the standard soldiers of IoS boasting weapons superior to their human counterparts and making up for any shortcomings with extensive training and special abilities; they overcome their opponents by quickly adapting to the needs of the situation. Mage Hunters are the traditions 'assassin' models of the Retribution of Scyrah, they are lightly armoured, well trained and tasked with eliminating the stain of human sorcery from the world; they attack the enemy from stealthy positions, with magical weapons ignoring the strongest magical enchantments.


Overall, the offensive abilities of the Retribution of Scyrah are heavily specialised, with models attacking the enemy directly. As a faction they have a general lack of AOEs, sprays and other area wide attacks; but are able to ignore LoS, spells and other rules human spell casters hide behind.


Retribution of Scyrah Magic: Retribution magic tends to focus on two areas, enhancing the factions offense - with spells like snipe, vortex of destruction, mobility, and phantom hunter allowing them to attack harder, faster or when they usually wouldn't; or preventing the enemy's offense - with spells like stranglehold, polarity shield, and banishing ward denying various aspects of the game. They also boast an ability to take a large number of mage models, bringing both offensive magic and movement effects, to help position themselves and the enemy in a preferable position.


Retribution of Scyrah Warjacks: The Warjacks of this faction are, on first appearance, plain standard jacks, they have above average SPD values, but average STR, MAT, RAT, DEF, ARM and below average damage boxes. However, they all have a repairable powerfield protecting them, and each brings a different set of special, generally focus based, abilities. These qualities allow them to fight, in their area of specialisation, better than the standard jacks of any other faction. While these special abilities allow them to excel in one area, their generic core nature also allows them a degree flexability not usually seen in jacks - for instance most of initial heavys are armed equally well for melee as they are for ranged warfare. Overall our jacks tend to fill a role on the battlefield no other models do, and so are commonly fielded in a combined arms approach to warfare.

Mercenaries
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Whether for coin, vendetta or ideal, the mercenaries of the Iron Kingdoms fight across all of Western Immoren. Privateers, time-honored mercenary charters, renegades, and brigands make up their ranks. Lacking the industry, resources and treasuries of nations, mercenaries rely on flexibility and uniquely specialize units to seize victory, profit and revenge.


Mercenary Melee: Mercenary commanders have access to hulking warjacks, heavy cavalry, ranks of infantry, and elite skirmishers to meet any foe. While they may lack the combat specialization of other factions, they make up for it in versatility. From lightly armed pirates to armor-encased Dwarves, Mercenaries have it all.


Mercenary Ranged: Whether using guns, bows, or cannons, Mercenaries dominate ranged combat. Privateer and Rhullic allies bring heavy artillery while Stealheads and the Resistance bring rifles. A menagerie of other allies bring bows, crossbows, vials of alchemical agents, cannons, and even throwing knives. 


Mercenary Magic: While lacking the infrastructure to recruit, raise and train those adept at sorcerous magics, Mercenaries can exploit their contacts to hire those outcasts and wanderers who can wield arcane power. From sorcerour Elves to rebel gun mages, Mercenary magics are as varied as their other assets.


Mercenary Warjacks: Maintaining and repairing warjacks can be expensive. Thankfully, cast offs from Cygnar, converted laborjacks, and Rhullic allies are plentiful. Mercenaries have access to durable-but-slow Rhullic jacks, a variety of fast light jacks, and a large number of ranged jacks. While they may lack the flashy new weaponry of the nations, Mercenary jacks are brutally efficient tools of the trade.


It should be noted that to play Mercenaries, one must pick a Contract. Each Contract represents an organization that is willing to pay for certain Mercs to forward their sometimes mysterious and dubious agendas.
For more Information on Contracts, see the Mercenary Community, specifically this thread that describes who can work for which Contract:http://www.privateerpressforums.com/showthread.php?t=5802
I mean, you can't really expect every sell-sword and cuthroat to work with any other, can you?

Convergence of Cyriss
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Overview - Initial Program Load

The Convergence of Cyriss is a new participant in the wars of western Immoren; the militant arm of the Cult of Cyriss taking action to pave the way for their goddess to manifest. Cyriss herself is the Maiden of Gears, the goddess of mathematics and science who claims responsibility/takes credit for many major advances in human society. For the Convergence, nothing is better than a precise, well-tuned machine...and the world could use some tuning.


Until recently in the timeline, 'paving the way' meant tweaking the ley lines and magical energies that few of Immoren's citizens know of - this lead the Convergence into conflict with the Circle Orboros and the elves of Ios, who use the same ley lines in their own fashions. But now, in grand tradition, The Stars Are Right and the Convergence's plans are accelerating, bringing them into conflict with the major players of the Iron Kingdoms.


Keywords for this faction include synergysupportinterlocking abilities, and versatility.


Technical Considerations
Players interested in the Convergence should be aware of a few points:
- The Convergence is a brand new faction as of July 2013 and has a limited set of models currently available to choose from. Further, they are a 'minor' faction that PP has stated will not be getting new things as often as the other WM/H factions.


- Convergence models, at least as of the first couple of waves, have proven to be very fiddly to assemble. Most have lots of small or fragile parts, and the plastics require considerable cleanup of seams and mold lines. A handful of assembly guides have already been posted; be certain to check out the Convergence faction forum.


- As an army, Convergence models rely on a lot of special abilities and interaction within themselves, often needing a fair amoutn of planning turns ahead.


Convergence Melee
Convergences forces bring a solid melee game to the table. On their own, warjacks and warriors have modest stats, and can bring the pain in a surprising number of ways; from the rams and pistons of the heavy warjacks, to the shield walls and transforming 'protean' weapons of the heavy infantry, to quick strikes by soaring, steel-winged Clockwork Angels.


Convergence Ranged
The ranged gameplan for Convergence armies is surprisingly subtle - most attacks may not be incredibly damaging, but they definitely have side benefits as well! No crude powder-fired weapons dishing out imprecise destruction here; their ordinance includes blasts of shrapnel and flying gears from tightly-wound mechanisms, magnetically-launched razor flechettes, and surgical beams of energy. By themselves, ranged elements can single out targets, knock down foes, and shred infantry with only moderate effort.


Convergence Support
Of course, no melee or ranged element in a Convergence army should be on their own. The entire army is a grand machine, and every gear must be in place. Warjacks and troopers are accompanied by teams of technicians that make on-the-fly repairs to both troopers and warjacks, and adjustments to deal with terrain and magical defenses. In addition, floating Servitor drones dart about the battlefield to assist in making repairs, hurl target-marking chemicals to reduce enemy defenses, or hunt down foes with flechette gun and landmines.


Convergence Warjacks
The Convergence's warjacks, dubbed 'vectors', are direct extensions of their warcasters will, so tightly linked that they have no MAT or RAT of their own - they borrow the stats of their warcaster. Further, these vectors have the ability to pass Focus between themselves, sharing the warcaster's limited resources in ways other forces cannot. Heavy vectors bring the pain in melee and at range, while light vectors work to support the other elements by storing focus, marking or knocking down targets, and even making repairs on their own.


Convergence Warcasters
Warcasters of the Convergence can support many styles of play, the whole spell-slinging to face-smashing spectrum. Casters tend to support their own army, enhancing offense and defense, more than attacking directly with feats and spells. And moreso than any other force, changing the warcaster changes the way the army plays thanks to the Field Marshal mechanic that each caster grants their battlegroup - the very same vectors, under the right casters, can teleport short distances, channel spells, or slowly reassemble themselves!


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MensajeTema: Re: Warmachine // Hordes   Jue Sep 25, 2014 12:37 am

Es interesante y tiene minis cool... lo único por lo que no lo he probado es porque me pareció mucho (y me comentaron) que como se trata de bajarse al warcaster y ya, se vuelve un poco "monótono y a veces facilista" el juego
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MensajeTema: Re: Warmachine // Hordes   Jue Sep 25, 2014 7:52 am

Gracias por la info
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MensajeTema: Re: Warmachine // Hordes   Jue Sep 25, 2014 7:54 am

Siempre me gustaron las minis de cryx pero no tuve oportunidad ni de comprar minis ni mucho menos jugar :/
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MensajeTema: Re: Warmachine // Hordes   Miér Oct 01, 2014 11:36 pm

Ratly_Bonsai escribió:
Es interesante y tiene minis cool... lo único por lo que no lo he probado es porque me pareció mucho (y me comentaron) que como se trata de bajarse al warcaster y ya, se vuelve un poco "monótono y a veces facilista" el juego

Como todo juego tiene sus objetivos y cosas así, en este caso sea un escenario donde se deben controlar puntos o no, si muere el warcaster (warlock en hordes) el juego acaba. Tanto uno como el oponente lo saben y por ende no se debería descuidar al warcaster, ahí viene el tema que es cómo mato al enemigo sin que me maten a mí. Además dependiendo del estilo de juego que se arme como ataque directo, negación de zonas (control), áreas de peligro (por cargas del enemigo, habilidades, hechizos, etc.) no siempre es fácil bajarse a un caster.

También en el juego existen combos pasados pero son cosas que se pueden superar, en últimas cada facción tiene sus fortalezas y debilidades. He leído en varias partes que mucha gente ve en Warmachine un juego mucho más competitivo (por el tema de los combos y la sinergia de cada mini en una lista), pero en últimas muchos no solo jugamos para divertirnos sino también para ganar.

@Charly: Si le interesan las minis tengo unas para la venta. Y si le interesa cuando quiera cuadramos y nos echamos una partida para que vea como es la mecánica del juego, quien quita y le quede gustando!
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MensajeTema: Re: Warmachine // Hordes   Jue Oct 02, 2014 7:41 am

Hace un mes le hubiese dicho: de una. Pero ahora tengo tengo poco dinero (nada) para minis Razz compré compu nuevo y hasta llego la malgastadera de plata.
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MensajeTema: Re: Warmachine // Hordes   Jue Oct 02, 2014 2:26 pm

con proxis, animese y hace un articulo
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MensajeTema: Re: Warmachine // Hordes   Jue Oct 02, 2014 7:09 pm

See charly animese.
Yo he escuchado a  varios decir : " Ojo, Warmachine es el Demonio, ojo "
Tons debe ser bueno el juego ¿verdad? 
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PD: Yo he pensado en usar tres warjacks como Kdaii pequeños para los Enanos del Caos. Todas las minis de Privateer Press me parecen de excelente factura (y no me refiero a la factura de compra, claro).
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MensajeTema: Re: Warmachine // Hordes   Jue Oct 02, 2014 8:29 pm

yo de ahi kiero un oso de hordas para mi kislev, pero como es metalico es cariñoso :S
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MensajeTema: Re: Warmachine // Hordes   Jue Oct 02, 2014 8:53 pm

Seh, hay unas minis de warmachine y hordes reeeeeecucas, pero demasiado caras para mi bolsillo ultrajado Sad
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MensajeTema: Re: Warmachine // Hordes   Jue Oct 02, 2014 9:39 pm

De una Charly y Juniac, eso no es el coco jejejeje
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MensajeTema: Re: Warmachine // Hordes   Vie Oct 03, 2014 8:59 am

juniac escribió:
" Ojo, Warmachine es el Demonio, ojo "

Ah no, si con cosas demoniacas yo no juego con eso.
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MensajeTema: Re: Warmachine // Hordes   Vie Oct 03, 2014 9:17 am

tercer_mortal escribió:
juniac escribió:
" Ojo, Warmachine es el Demonio, ojo "

Ah no, si con cosas demoniacas yo no juego con eso.

hahahahahahhaahhaahha no joda Charly, uste se pasa hahahahahaha
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MensajeTema: Re: Warmachine // Hordes   Vie Oct 03, 2014 10:29 am

Hahaha
Entonces no veremos a Charly jugando en la mesa Cthulhu.

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MensajeTema: Re: Warmachine // Hordes   Vie Oct 03, 2014 11:37 am

Con Cthulhu no se juega, a él se le respeta y reverencia como lo que es:

EL GRAN Y PODEROSO CTHULHU, el dios oscuro que devorara sus almas pobres mortales, el no es un demonio. 

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MensajeTema: Re: Warmachine // Hordes   Vie Oct 03, 2014 12:35 pm

ahi si, vendido, no ke se iba ha tatuar el elder sign  y no se ke
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MensajeTema: Re: Warmachine // Hordes   Vie Oct 03, 2014 12:43 pm

pero si ve, uno no puede jugar un poco al doble agente porque de una vez lo acusando XD
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MensajeTema: Re: Warmachine // Hordes   Vie Oct 03, 2014 1:32 pm

Hahahahaha, ahora Charly es el nuevo Benny
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MensajeTema: Re: Warmachine // Hordes   Vie Oct 03, 2014 2:03 pm

A Charly siempre le ha gustado por lado y lado
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MensajeTema: Re: Warmachine // Hordes   Lun Oct 06, 2014 11:31 pm

Hágale Charly, hágale:



Y un comentario que me gusto mucho:
Pregunta: To what extent is a strategy useful in this game? I am thinking of getting into Warmachine or Hordes but every game I see, it's just armies running head long at each other in the center of the table.

Is this usual?
Respuesta: It is but it's not as integral to something like say Warhammer, but where as it's less concerned with list building, battlefield tactics play a more crucial role. As a general rule units can give a whole lot more damage than they can take, so landing the first punch is very important, hence the armies charging full speed into each other, playing defensive is a bad idea most of the time. It's a game that prioritizes aggression and adaptability over game winning plans. So to answer your question, yes, but in a different way than most. It's a hell of a fun game, and if you're thinking about getting into it I'd advise you get a battlebox, once you play your first match you'll be hooked. Good hunting.
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MensajeTema: Re: Warmachine // Hordes   Mar Oct 07, 2014 8:36 am

Dejeme deshacerme de un chicharron que tengo por ahi y vemos cuando me enseña.
Pero por ahora ni reporte ni nada eso.
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MensajeTema: Re: Warmachine // Hordes   Mar Oct 07, 2014 11:40 am

uyyyyy....
Creo que esto se volvio offtopic
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MensajeTema: Re: Warmachine // Hordes   Mar Oct 07, 2014 11:10 pm

hahahahahha Charly siempre es de mente abierta, lo demás se lo abren por encargo xD
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MensajeTema: Re: Warmachine // Hordes   Sáb Ene 17, 2015 10:27 pm

Les dejo un artículo interesante: http://www.cargad.com/index.php/2015/01/10/warmachine-warmachine-y-hordas-para-quien-viene-de-warhammer/
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